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It's like it's going really, really fast.

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Look at that, guys.

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Oh, my gosh.

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They were trying to prove life after death.

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Almost like a UFO seeding the Earth.

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Two, one, light it up.

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Go.

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Look at her go.

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Let me get the lights.

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Photo.

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Oh, my goodness.

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There's a flying saucer.

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Getting a series of lights right there.

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Do you see what I'm seeing?

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What the heck is happening?

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Hey.

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Good morning.

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Did you guys bring in some good stuff to the table today?

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Always.

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Yeah, all right.

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So, J.L., what do you have for us?

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I have a case from Christmas night of 2004.

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A police helicopter was doing its routine patrol

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over Long Beach, California.

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When their thermal imaging camera captures some kind of

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burning hot liquid in the sky,

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almost like a UFO seeding the Earth.

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Check out this video.

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It looks like something's melting off of it.

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The movement is so organic,

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and there are so many elements being dropped.

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What did the police think this was?

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Well, they had no idea what it was,

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so they passed the footage along to the military.

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On this day, no one has been able to release

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an official statement of what it was.

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Now, we've seen a lot of UFO videos,

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but none that really depict this kind of heated liquid

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that drips off of it in mid-flight.

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I agree.

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I've never really seen anything like it.

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I think it'd be a challenge to try and recreate it.

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I think this has a lot of potential.

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I want to see what else we have today.

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So, J.L., what do you have?

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I have a really recent video, guys.

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Last year, Ken Goldstein, an Australian photographer,

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thinks that he hears noises coming from this photography studio.

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He heads down to the basement,

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and he sees a shadow, so he quickly grabs his video camera,

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and he thinks that he captures genuine poltergeist activity.

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Take a look at this.

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Oh, my gosh.

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Wow, easy.

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Look at the way it's tipping over the box.

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This poltergeist continues to wreak havoc on Ken's life.

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We have another video here.

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This is a really violent poltergeist.

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It started with squeaking boxes,

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and now it's escalated to breaking glass.

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Kind of odd that it's just that open cabinet, though.

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The one that happens to be open is where items fly out of.

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There could be a hole in the wall,

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and somebody is just throwing objects through it.

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Ben, can you go back to the first video in the basement?

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You guys can see that there's some sort of piping system on the ceiling.

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It is possible that maybe monofilament lines are draped down

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and pulling the objects across.

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It's totally testable.

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I don't know. I just feel every event here is way too easy to recreate.

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I just don't really see this poltergeist being worth their time.

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No, that makes sense.

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We have some more to look at today.

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I've got a really cool UFO video for you.

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Now, this comes from the big island of Hawaii.

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Supposedly, a paranormal researcher was out driving near a government facility.

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Now, over the property, he sees these three lights that come together

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and then separate many times.

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He grabs his video camera, and this is what he captured.

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It's a fire.

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Is it a triangular UFO?

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It looks like separate, separate rocks.

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It's like they're separate drones, but they're coordinated.

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They just disappear.

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The way they disappear at the end is pretty suspicious,

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but you could do that with editing software.

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The lights are really, really bright. I don't see any shadows. I don't see any shading.

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This is super easy to do with a computer.

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The reason I brought it is because really the implication that it's over a government facility.

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Now, I believe kind of what she'd want, if it were hoaxed, I'm going to say it's CG.

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I will try to do some more on the backstory and try to source the video

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before we take any action on it.

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So, Devin, what do you have for us?

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All right, you guys.

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Do you guys all remember in Ghostbusters when people would get slimed?

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Now, that movie was obviously fiction, but the slime was based on a substance known as ectoplasm.

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Now, in the 1920s or 30s in North America, seances were huge.

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Now, ectoplasm is believed to be the physical manifestation of a spirit,

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and it supposedly oozes from the orifices of a medium, like the ears and the nose and the mouth.

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Now, in Canada, there's a doctor named T.G. Hamilton,

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who was obsessed with the idea that ectoplasm was physical proof of the afterlife.

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So, he did tons of seances, took thousands of photos, actually capturing the substance.

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Wow, weird.

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What?

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What is that?

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Is there a face in that ectoplasm?

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The idea is that the face of the spirit they're trying to contact was showing up in the ectoplasm.

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Supposedly, there were witnesses to this, so this wasn't just something that was caught in the photo, and people actually saw it.

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I actually know a little bit about the history of Dr. T.G. Hamilton's photographs.

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Scholars and experts have studied the negatives and the prints from these sessions,

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and they say that they don't see any evidence of tampering.

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They were using cameras that used photographic-sensitive plates.

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So, it wasn't like necessarily they could edit it like we can do now with computer software.

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If this is actually going to be hoaxed and it was done in the 1920s and 30s, I think this all has to be done practically.

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We've never investigated a case like that before.

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It's got a lot of potential.

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So, which cases do you like the most?

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I want to investigate ectoplasm.

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This case has real historic significance.

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Ectoplasm is well known and debated throughout the paranormal community.

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Now, guys, I have to say, I love the Poltergeist video from Australia.

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But I also love the ectoplasm because this is literally one of the first documented cases of paranormal activity.

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My vote goes for Seating UFO.

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I've never seen anything like it, and it's stumped the military. I think we have to investigate.

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There has to be a way to figure out what's giving off that heat signature.

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This UFO case is so popular, so many people wanting to know what it was, and no one's really put it to the test yet.

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I'm going to have to go with ectoplasm, you guys.

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There are so many gadgets that I could build that would help us replicate these photos.

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So, I'm thinking, Gile, if you want to go to the Long Beach UFO with me and Austin, then Bill, Shilan, and Devin can go do the ectoplasm.

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Let's do it.

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Yep, cases today, guys.

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So, here we are at Long Beach, the fifth largest city in California, and the site of our next UFO investigation.

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It's a very popular case.

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The footage was captured on Christmas night of 2004.

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A police helicopter pilot, he's flying around, and he sees this UFO.

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It looks like it's dropping white hot seeds for almost three minutes over the Long Beach Harbor.

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The report said the pilots had no clue what it was.

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That's why they turned the footage over to the police department, let them investigate it.

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And from the police department, it went to the military and then escalated up to the FBI.

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There's so many agencies involved with this, and the secrecy makes it really unique.

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It is kind of strange that law enforcement still hasn't come up with an official explanation for this.

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I think we need to verify the facts with both the military and law enforcement before we conduct any of our tests.

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We'll be meeting first with the Lieutenant David Canan.

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Now, he was with the Long Beach Police Department at the time that this event occurred.

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He must be David.

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Hi, guys.

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I'm Ben.

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Hi, Ben.

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You know that we're looking into this case at Long Beach Police Department filmed?

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Correct.

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Can you just start off by telling us how you became involved with it?

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At that time, I was a spokesman for the police department.

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Well, I went to our air support unit and asked them what occurred.

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They said that they saw something in the sky that they couldn't readily identify.

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They filmed it, and because they felt it was a hazard to aviation,

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they turned over what they had to the military.

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What kind of camera did the pilot use to film this object?

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It's called a flurer for looking infrared camera,

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and it's mounted on the undercarriage of the aircraft.

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How far from the helicopter was the object?

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I believe they were about a quarter mile away.

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When you saw the footage, did you know what the object was?

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So guys, I managed to track down Tyler Burke.

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Now, he was the duty officer who was at the Los Alamitos Military Base the night the tape was delivered.

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You Tyler?

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I'm Ben, and we just talked with Lieutenant Kanan of the Long Beach Police Department,

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and we understand that the tape was turned over to your military base.

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Once the tapes came in, what happened to them?

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The tape came in, and I showed it around the office of different instructor pilots

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to see if maybe we could figure it out.

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Does the military have an official stance on what the object in the footage was?

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I've flown about 2,500 hours using flare systems.

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I've never seen anything like it.

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I'm really curious to see what this is.

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I do believe it was a UFO.

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It's a little green men.

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Well, I guess I'll leave that up for you guys to decide.

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Thank you, Tyler.

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Now we need to get to the test site and run some experiments to see what this UFO really was.

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I think that out here in the desert, we have plenty of room to safely do our tests.

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What you got here, Ben?

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I like the way you roll.

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Show us the inside.

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This thing is cool.

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Let's take a look at all the toys here, guys.

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We'll be able to film all of our thermal imaging and all the experiments from this rig.

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Now our thermal imaging cameras are attached to this 30-foot mast.

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It also allows it to turn 360 degrees.

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We can film all of our experiments from here.

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One thing that will definitely create a significant heat signature is a military flare.

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So we're going to test the theory that the object over the Long Beach Harbor

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was a parachute flare that was launched from the Los Alamitos military base.

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Our thermal camera has a 750-millimeter zoom lens,

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which is the same one that was used to capture the original footage,

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and we're going to maneuver it from our control center to track this flare in the sky.

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I'm using this electronic rangefinder to secure our launching point.

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That way we have the exact same distance as the original footage.

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If we can't figure out what this object was with all of this cutting-edge technology,

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then maybe this was a UFO.

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Austin, the command center, you copy?

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Come in, Austin.

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Oh, you have a visual on me now?

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You have a visual on you.

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As soon as I pull the trigger on this gun, this flare is going to launch easily to an elevation of around 5,600 feet.

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It's about the same altitude that the helicopter was flying when they actually captured the Long Beach UFO on video.

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All right, Austin. We're all framed up and calibrated. Here we go.

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Three, two, one. Launch flare.

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Whoa, there it goes. Yeah.

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We're going to test the theory that the object over the Long Beach Harbor was a parachute flare that was launched from the Los Alamitos military base.

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Here we go.

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Three, two, one. Launch flare.

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Whoa, there it goes. Yeah.

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Look at that. Wow.

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And it looks like the sun.

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We're seeing it start to trail off stuff.

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Oh my gosh. Oh, look. It's definitely got the dripping. It's super bright.

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I mean, the only thing I would say is that it's very apparent there's a shoot there.

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Definitely. We're seeing two different objects.

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Got the parachute nails black. It was heated up at first.

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And then the flare itself.

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Oh.

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Austin, well done. Why don't you come on back so we can do our side by side comparison?

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Take a look at this. This is our original video over here on the left.

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Okay.

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The police helicopter. Here's what we just shot.

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Now you can see the flare takes off.

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You get this artifact, which is kind of like this blooming effect as soon as it goes up.

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Then it starts actually dripping.

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The heat signature is giving us that seating droplet look, but it's just not lasting long enough.

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No.

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When you launched it, it only dripped for the first few seconds.

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And then all of a sudden we get the silhouette of the parachute. It's falling down.

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This continues to drip.

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The police aircrew filmed this for over three minutes.

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Right.

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I would say tops was like a minute and a half. The whole parachute was in the air.

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It definitely wasn't hovering.

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I think we can kind of roll out and you know that it was a flare.

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I'm just wondering if the fact that it was shot on Christmas has anything to do with it.

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I mean, what would people be launching up into the sky on Christmas night?

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Long Beach has a large Latino community and they have a lot of traditions.

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You know, sometimes they launch these floaters like Chinese lanterns into the sky for celebrations

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like weddings or a quinceanera.

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It's possible that maybe they launched one for Christmas.

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I like it.

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I like where you're going with this.

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I've never seen one, but I think we absolutely have to get one of these up in the air and see what it looks like when thermal camp.

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Our next theory is that the UFO might actually just be a simple homemade hot air balloon.

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They're really easy to make.

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All you need is a large bag and you attach that to really lightweight platforms.

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When you light the candles, it actually heats up the air inside the balloon and causes it to take off.

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As the wax from the candles melts and falls off the planet,

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it could create that dripping effect from the original footage.

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Alright guys, floaters done.

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I'm going to head to the launch point.

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You just let me know when you're ready to rock.

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And three, two, one.

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Release floater.

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Yeah, there it goes.

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It's starting to fly a little bit.

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Yeah.

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And it's actually taking off.

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Awesome.

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For command center, we have official lift off.

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This thing's actually taking off pretty good.

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Yes, it is.

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Happy that.

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We're watching it right now.

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Oh my God.

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Look what we got from drift.

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Yep, it's starting to drift.

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Look at this.

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Oh my God.

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There was the wax.

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Look at that.

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Oh my God.

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Hey buddy, come back over here.

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Let's compare this to the original footage.

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Alright, I'll see you guys in a minute.

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You have to see this.

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I'll watch as this starts to drift.

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There we go.

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Look at that.

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That's a seeding effect.

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Yeah.

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Guys, this is really close.

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It looks a lot like our video.

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I do have two concerns though.

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We didn't get it quite as high as the 500 foot level.

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Well, my other concern is that it's not getting that constant stream of looking for.

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So now we're going to move on to our next test.

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We're going to launch a remote controlled airplane that can definitely get the same altitude we were seeing in the original footage.

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Plus, they'll be able to maintain that same altitude.

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The original image appeared to be seeding something with a significant heat signature.

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So in order to replicate that, we're going to tape sparklers to the front of the car.

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We're going to tape sparklers to the tail of this plane.

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And hopefully our sparklers will create a dripping effect that our thermal imaging camera can pick up.

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I've seen a lot of videos where extreme hobbyists attach all kinds of things to their planes.

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I mean, flashlights, fireworks, stuffed animals.

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You name it, people have tried to attach to their plane to fly it.

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I think we're solid.

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Done?

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I think that's good.

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Alright, let's go.

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Austin, you ready to launch this thing?

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You know I am.

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Alright, Ben, we're cleared for launch.

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Just know when you're ready to rock.

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Get ready to light it.

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In three, two, one.

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Light it up.

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Here we go.

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Go.

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There she goes.

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There she goes.

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Yeah!

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So now we're going to launch a remote controlled airplane that can definitely get the same altitude we were seeing in the original footage.

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Plus something that's going to burn a little bit brighter when seen through the thermal imager.

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So our RC plane has a belly full of fireworks.

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When this thing takes off, it's going to light up like a Christmas tree.

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Get ready to light it.

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In three, two, one.

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Light it up.

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Here we go.

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Thank you.

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Go.

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Ben, she's in the air!

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She's in the air!

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Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

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That looks good.

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Hey Austin, can you get it to go straight up and just keep it in hover?

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Hey, how is that?

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There we go.

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Haha, nice job.

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Are you ready to see a good spark show?

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Yes.

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I am.

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Okay, look at the stall you're going to right here.

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Look at the stream of sparks that's coming down from it.

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We definitely got a very consistent seeding effect.

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I originally thought this looked like chunks of liquid metal almost coming off.

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We're looking at sparks though.

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I am sold on the idea that this has a logical explanation.

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But just because we recreated this Long Beach UFO video,

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and it looks like it could have been an RC plane or a float, or it doesn't mean that it was,

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Long Beach has had a significant increase in UFO activity.

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I think it would behoove us to go back there and do a night watch.

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Hey, sounds smart.

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I'm in for that.

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Let's do it.

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We've got all the important areas covered.

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Camera one and four.

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We've got covering the east and west skyline.

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We've got camera three.

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Shoreline to my right.

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Two.

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And this one's covering the shoreline to the opposite side of the pier.

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Check out our latest equipment.

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Okay.

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Nice.

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This is the new thermal imaging scope.

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It is very, very sensitive.

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Really cool technology, very compact.

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You know, used in law enforcement, surveillance, that type of thing.

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We're gonna bring the camera infrared so that if, you know, if we do catch sight of something, we'll document it.

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Perfect.

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So Jai and I are gonna take off.

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We're gonna go exploring the shoreline.

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All right.

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So we'll be in touch.

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Ready, guys?

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Ready.

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Let's go green.

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You know what the fog rolling in on this low cloud cover?

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When you're trying to see something in the sky, it definitely limits your visibility.

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You can't help but feel almost claustrophobic.

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If something's out there, we really can't see it.

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Let's get up here so we can take a better look.

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It's kind of weird.

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I've never really been scared of the ocean at all, but it's definitely, oh.

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Austin, the team, are you there?

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Go ahead, buddy.

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Guys, on camera four, we're covering the east sky.

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I just saw, I'm not sure what it was, but it looked like a craft, but I can't tell.

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Do you guys see anything on the FLIR or the thermal camera?

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They're explaining extremely fast.

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It looks small.

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Oh, that's odd.

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Yeah.

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Team to Austin, team to Austin.

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Are you seeing what Ben and I are seeing?

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Whoa.

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Man, we need to hear about the equipment we got to use.

422
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Yeah?

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So we got to play with a lot of really cool equipment in our case.

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If you remember the UFO in Long Beach, it was a police helicopter filming what looked like

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a strange object dripping some hot liquid.

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For our first test, we launched a military grade parachute flare into the air,

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and we actually tracked it using the exact same thermal imaging camera that they had in the police helicopter.

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Oh, look at that.

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Oh.

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You got it to release something.

431
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Yeah, it looks like it's dripping in the sky.

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The problem was that the flare actually went out before we could get enough of that seeding effect.

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So we needed to do something that gave us a more pronounced dripping effect.

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We moved on to another test.

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Now Long Beach has a large Hispanic community, and it's part of their tradition to make these

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homemade hot air balloons or floaters.

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It's possible that somebody launched one of these floaters to celebrate Christmas.

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With how easy this is to make, you won't believe the results.

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Take a look for yourself.

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Look at that.

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Oh, look.

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That is amazing.

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So that's just hot wax coming down.

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It's wax that also heated up the bag, and that melted, and chunks of it came off.

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But we still weren't 100% satisfied.

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The floater couldn't reach the same altitude we saw in the video because we were only up a few hundred feet.

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And in order to get a bigger heat signature from the droplets, we decided to move on to another experiment.

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A remote-controlled airplane strapped with fireworks.

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Extreme hobbyists attach all kinds of things to their planes. Check this out.

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No way.

451
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Wow.

452
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Wow.

453
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Wow.

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Boston was actually able to put the RC plane in a stall so it looked like it was hovering.

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That looks right on.

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It's dripping so much.

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That is seriously a match, guys. That's amazing.

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So guys, just because we recreated the video and it looks like it could have been an RC plane or a floater doesn't mean that it was.

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It could have been an actual UFO in the skies that night.

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There has been increased activity in Long Beach.

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So we decided to do our own night sky watch.

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At one point, I did catch an unusual light on the IR camera.

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Kind of just zip across the screen.

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Let me know what you guys think of this.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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I mean, at first look, it's like it's going really, really fast.

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Is there any chance that it could be a satellite in the sky?

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No, because you see how close it is to the screen.

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And if you notice, it goes faster than anything else you can honestly visibly see in the sky.

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But it wasn't an airliner? You didn't hear it?

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I didn't hear it or see anything.

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Plus, we had a lot of cloud cover that night.

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What do you guys think it is?

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Well, take a look at this.

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If we back this up, it looks like it's blinking

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or maybe the wings of a bird flopping.

478
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Oh, yeah, yeah.

479
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Man, well, good job.

480
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You guys proved that the UFO could have either been a remote-controlled plane or a floater.

481
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Thank you.

482
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So guys, tell me about the ectoplasm investigation.

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Well, you guys recall, we went up to Canada to investigate this historic ectoplasm case.

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We selected four of the most intriguing photos

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and we tried to replicate them in the same house where they were originally taken.

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Check it out.

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Coming up on Fact or Faked Paranormal Files.

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He was interested in the facts. They were trying to prove life after death.

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I'm going to hit the lights. Ready? Three, two, one. Lights.

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So we're going to be examining a truly historic case that documented the phenomena known as ectoplasm,

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which is supposedly a substance that emanates the body of a medium during a seance or a trance.

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And these spiritual manifestations are purportedly secreted from the medium's orifices,

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like the mouth and the ears and the nose.

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In the 1920s and 30s, a doctor in Winnipeg, Dr. T. G. Hamilton,

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who's actually really interested in psychic research,

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he conducted thousands of seances in his house

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and was able to capture all of this ectoplasm on film.

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And Dr. Hamilton was apparently very scientific with his approach.

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People would be frisked before they'd enter the room.

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The room would then be sealed to avoid outside contamination.

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And the participants were allowed to examine the film as it developed.

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This is the cemetery where T. G. Hamilton is buried

503
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000
and where we're going to be meeting Walter Meijer-Zu-Urpin.

504
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000
He's an expert on Hamilton and on ectoplasm.

505
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000
Walter.

506
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000
Hello.

507
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000
This is the Hamilton gravestone right here.

508
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,000
This one right here?

509
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,000
Everything in front of the stone, sort of a semi-circle here is all the Hamilton graves.

510
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,000
So tell us a little bit about Hamilton and his psychic research.

511
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Thomas Glenn Ending Hamilton was a medical doctor here in Winnipeg.

512
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,000
He was a fellow of the American College of Surgeons.

513
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,000
He was a very upstanding member of the Winnipeg community.

514
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,000
He became interested in psychic research about 1918.

515
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,000
They were studying telekinesis, table levitations.

516
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000
They were trying to prove life after death.

517
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000
We should really go over and have a look inside the house, I think.

518
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000
Let's do it.

519
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,000
This is the room that the seances were conducted in, in the 1920s and early 1930s.

520
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,000
The group would come upstairs sometimes two to three nights a week

521
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,000
and there might be eight or nine sitters on any given evening that would be here.

522
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,000
What experiments did he actually conduct here in terms of psychic research?

523
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,000
The earliest experiments were the table levitations.

524
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,000
After Mary Marshall and her sister-in-law Susan Marshall became members of the group,

525
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,000
they started to observe and photograph ectoplasm.

526
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,000
That's what we're really interested in, the ectoplasm, because those photographs are amazing.

527
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,000
And we're wondering how did they come about? What happened during those seances?

528
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,000
The sitters would be seated holding hands.

529
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000
So you'd have a half circle all around.

530
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000
The windows were permanently darkened.

531
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,000
Was it pitch black while they were doing these seances?

532
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:56,000
They were actually sitting in the dark and they would sit sometimes for half an hour,

533
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000
sometimes for an hour before anything would happen.

534
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000
They saw the ectoplasm in the flash.

535
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000
A lot of our photos have this same woman in it.

536
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,000
Why do you think Dr. Hamilton used Mary and Marshall so much in so many of the photos?

537
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,000
No, she was chosen because she was the individual who had the ability to produce ectoplasm.

538
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000
She had the ability to produce it.

539
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,000
Primarily.

540
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Can ectoplasm be seen with a naked eye or does it just have to be captured with photography?

541
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,000
Oh no, certainly. During that brief moment when the flash was exploded,

542
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000
they could see the substance in the room.

543
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000
How do you respond to the skeptics and people who say that this is a parlor trick?

544
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:39,000
If you look at the professionals who were involved, the medical doctors, the clergymen, the lawyers,

545
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,000
they had so much to lose if they were participating in fraud.

546
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,000
Walter, thanks for your time.

547
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Most welcome. Thank you.

548
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,000
Now that we know more of the history of Dr. Hamilton's experience with ectoplasm,

549
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,000
we've picked four of his most famous photographs to base our experiments on.

550
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Take a look at this picture that was taken of Mary and Marshall.

551
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,000
Look at how that ectoplasm just comes out of her mouth and seems to envelop her face.

552
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,000
It does seem like in the number of these ectoplasmic photos that it's a smoky-like substance.

553
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000
So I think smoke is a great place to start.

554
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:26,000
I think you guys that if we use a cigar and I puff on it and I slowly let the smoke come out of my mouth,

555
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,000
my face is moving forward, I think it might curl around my face just like in the original photo.

556
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,000
I mean, just take a look at the contrast here. It's like super dark, dark, super bright whites.

557
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,000
So to get that, I'm going to use this vintage 35mm film rig.

558
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,000
And I have a flash attached because remember, Hamilton did use flashes in here

559
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000
and that's how he was able to capture the pictures.

560
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Because Hamilton took his photos in the dark, we're going to do that as well.

561
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,000
Hey, Devin.

562
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Yeah.

563
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000
Can you do that kind of shape with your mouth?

564
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,000
Yeah. Open on both sides.

565
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,000
You're trying to do it.

566
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,000
That's actually really good.

567
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,000
So the exhale and kind of move forward.

568
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,000
Okay.

569
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000
Yeah, I can do that.

570
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000
Okay.

571
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,000
Let's just throw this up real quick.

572
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,000
We have to make it pretty flat.

573
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,000
There you go.

574
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,000
Oh, the bill's got hops.

575
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,000
Devin, you ready?

576
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,000
I'm ready.

577
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,000
Cheylaan, you ready?

578
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,000
I'm set.

579
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:20,000
Okay, let me get the lights on three, two, one, photo.

580
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:34,000
We are in Winnipeg to examine a truly historic case that documented the phenomena

581
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
that was ectoplasm.

582
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,000
They were studying telekinesis, table levitations.

583
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,000
They were trying to prove life after death.

584
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:50,000
We've picked four of Dr. Hamilton's photographs with ectoplasm to base our experiments on.

585
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,000
If we use a cigar and I puff on it and I hold the smoke in my mouth, I think it might

586
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,000
curl around my face just like in the original photo.

587
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:08,000
Okay, let me get the lights on three, two, one, photo.

588
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,000
That was eerie.

589
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000
All right, let me get the lights back on.

590
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,000
Yeah?

591
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,000
You just looked like a haunted face, but the flash reflecting against you and the smoke,

592
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,000
it was really...

593
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Really?

594
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,000
We got to see the picture.

595
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,000
Yeah, definitely.

596
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,000
I'm going to go ahead and process this film and then we'll print it out.

597
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000
Okay.

598
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000
Hamilton was a photography enthusiast.

599
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:35,000
He used a number of film formats to take pictures of his séances.

600
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,000
So right now I'm setting up our own darkroom in the Hamilton house to make sure that we

601
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,000
can develop our negatives here as well as process the pictures so we can control all

602
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000
elements of the experiment.

603
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,000
Oh my gosh!

604
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Guys, take a look!

605
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,000
Oh my gosh!

606
00:33:48,000 --> 00:34:00,000
That is a pretty close match.

607
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,000
There are many similarities, but I do see differences.

608
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,000
Look at the density.

609
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:12,000
The smoke from our cigar was very wispy and very light where this was sort of congealing

610
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,000
together.

611
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Yeah, but you guys with the perfect setting and the smoke, the ability to direct the smoke

612
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,000
might have been figure looking.

613
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:29,380
Our recreation photo does have striking similarities to the original, which does suggest that this

614
00:34:29,380 --> 00:34:34,380
ectoplasm may have been smoke, so it's time to move on to our new photo.

615
00:34:34,380 --> 00:34:40,380
For the next photo we've selected, we have a really well-known image.

616
00:34:40,380 --> 00:34:46,380
And some people speculate that the medium that we see in the photo was actually vomiting,

617
00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:50,380
but to me it looks like this material is floating.

618
00:34:50,380 --> 00:34:54,380
I want to see if there's a material that I can expel that looks like what we see in

619
00:34:54,380 --> 00:34:55,380
this picture.

620
00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:59,380
Yeah, it looks like there's maybe some cotton or something coming out of her mouth and going

621
00:34:59,380 --> 00:35:03,380
into her blouse, and I think that could be easily rigged with cotton balls, maybe some

622
00:35:03,380 --> 00:35:05,380
netting and some monofilament line pulling through.

623
00:35:05,380 --> 00:35:09,380
There are other people in the room, there have been numerous witnesses.

624
00:35:09,380 --> 00:35:12,380
If this is a hoax, no one's saying that they were a part of it.

625
00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:14,380
Maybe it was being pulled off without their knowledge.

626
00:35:14,380 --> 00:35:17,380
So it's got to be done in a way that doesn't tip off anybody else.

627
00:35:17,380 --> 00:35:18,380
Right.

628
00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:24,380
We're now trying to replicate the photo of the medium that has ectoplasm coming out

629
00:35:24,380 --> 00:35:26,380
of her mouth and onto her shirt.

630
00:35:26,380 --> 00:35:30,380
We're exploring the theory that the others in the photo weren't aware of what was happening

631
00:35:30,380 --> 00:35:32,380
or how it was done.

632
00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:39,380
This can totally be pulled off with some monofilament line and a cotton ball compressed in a tubular

633
00:35:39,380 --> 00:35:42,380
shape coming right out of Bill's mouth who will be playing the part of our medium.

634
00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:45,380
He'll simply pull down on the filament line, it'll come out of his mouth, go right through

635
00:35:45,380 --> 00:35:47,380
his shirt, ectoplasm.

636
00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:52,380
Bill, I've attached the monofilament line to a puller.

637
00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:54,380
You grab that and just pull on it.

638
00:35:54,380 --> 00:35:58,380
This is so elaborate, I can't imagine them pulling this off without some light or anything.

639
00:35:58,380 --> 00:36:01,380
It was reported that all of these seances and stuff happened in the dark.

640
00:36:01,380 --> 00:36:05,380
So what if this happened without anyone noticing?

641
00:36:06,380 --> 00:36:08,380
Everyone in the photo was holding hands.

642
00:36:08,380 --> 00:36:14,380
Mary Ann didn't yank it with her hand, so maybe she had control with her foot and she just did it by herself.

643
00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:17,380
I'm ready to start this test.

644
00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:19,380
Okay, let's do it.

645
00:36:20,380 --> 00:36:26,380
I'm gonna hit the lights. Ready? Three, two, one. Lights.

646
00:36:27,380 --> 00:36:29,380
Ooh, that's good, Bill.

647
00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:32,380
They think we got it. Let me get the lights.

648
00:36:34,380 --> 00:36:35,380
Guys.

649
00:36:36,380 --> 00:36:37,380
Wow. How'd that feel? How'd that taste?

650
00:36:37,380 --> 00:36:38,380
Yeah.

651
00:36:38,380 --> 00:36:41,380
Dry, but, you know, it was tolerable.

652
00:36:44,380 --> 00:36:46,380
Take a look at this.

653
00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:49,380
Oh, man.

654
00:36:51,380 --> 00:36:58,380
That ectoplasm coming out of her mouth could have just been cotton, cheesecloth, maybe just some gauze.

655
00:37:02,380 --> 00:37:09,380
The density may be not matching 100%, but what we've proved is that the effect can be faked,

656
00:37:09,380 --> 00:37:12,380
but we haven't disproved the existence of ectoplasm.

657
00:37:12,380 --> 00:37:13,380
Good point.

658
00:37:17,380 --> 00:37:25,380
So now we're gonna move on to a more complex photograph where the medium is lying down in a cot and her face is covered in the ectoplasm.

659
00:37:25,380 --> 00:37:31,380
I mean, when you're thinking about it, this medium is actually right by the radiator which is here, and this is an old-school steam radiator.

660
00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:36,380
So some people say that they loosen the nozzle, but this is really hot steam.

661
00:37:36,380 --> 00:37:39,380
No one can actually be close to the radiator if that is the case.

662
00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:45,380
This could simply be done with dry ice, and considering that dry ice was invented in 1925,

663
00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:48,380
and this photo was taken after that, it's totally possible.

664
00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:52,380
But look, there's witnesses in the room, so it's gotta be done in a way that doesn't tip off anybody else.

665
00:37:54,380 --> 00:37:59,380
Well, okay. With the dry ice, you can easily wrap it in rice paper to, say, protect your skin.

666
00:37:59,380 --> 00:38:05,380
A simple bowl with warm water in it, and you just drop the dry ice in it as soon as it contacts that warm water.

667
00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:07,380
It's gonna get smoked for maybe two, three minutes.

668
00:38:11,380 --> 00:38:13,380
Alright, I'm gonna hit the lights now, guys. You guys set?

669
00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:17,380
Okay, in three, two, one.

670
00:38:17,380 --> 00:38:19,380
This is the moment of truth.

671
00:38:32,380 --> 00:38:35,380
What I have here is dry ice bubbling in warm water.

672
00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:38,380
We're gonna place this cup right underneath Bill's arm.

673
00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:42,380
When he drops the dry ice pellets in, it's gonna bubble just like this,

674
00:38:42,380 --> 00:38:45,380
and we're gonna have ectoplasm running right up his face.

675
00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:49,380
Alright, I'm gonna hit the lights now, guys. You guys set?

676
00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:50,380
Alright, great.

677
00:38:50,380 --> 00:38:54,380
Okay, in three, two, one.

678
00:38:54,380 --> 00:38:55,380
Drop it.

679
00:38:58,380 --> 00:38:59,380
Perfect.

680
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:00,380
So I'm gonna turn on the lights.

681
00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:03,380
Alright, okay. Here you go. Thank you.

682
00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:06,380
I'm so excited to see how this experiment works.

683
00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:07,380
Yeah, you too.

684
00:39:08,380 --> 00:39:10,380
Oh, man, guys.

685
00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:12,380
Oh, do you take a look at the light?

686
00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:13,380
Oh, my God.

687
00:39:13,380 --> 00:39:15,380
I didn't know there was so much smoke.

688
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:19,380
Yeah, that little piece of dry ice created all of this smoke

689
00:39:19,380 --> 00:39:22,380
that's enveloping your entire upper body.

690
00:39:23,380 --> 00:39:26,380
The smoke from dry ice is more dense and cooler than atmospheric air.

691
00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:29,380
That's why it hovers and it sinks around its source.

692
00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:32,380
Our smoke stayed contained in the area that we wanted it to,

693
00:39:32,380 --> 00:39:34,380
and it created a cloak of mist over your upper body.

694
00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:37,380
Totally could have been mistaken for ectoplasm.

695
00:39:39,380 --> 00:39:42,380
We've been pretty successful with our experiments thus far.

696
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:44,380
Now it's time to move on to one of the more complicated

697
00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:47,380
documentations of ectoplasm, the phantom faces that appear

698
00:39:47,380 --> 00:39:49,380
in some of the photographs.

699
00:39:51,380 --> 00:39:54,380
This is supposed to be an image of the deceased person

700
00:39:54,380 --> 00:39:56,380
that the medium is communicating with.

701
00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:59,380
One popular hoax theory is that the medium ingested a photo

702
00:39:59,380 --> 00:40:02,380
before the seance, and then once the seance got going,

703
00:40:02,380 --> 00:40:05,380
she regurgitates it and it's supposed to be the person

704
00:40:05,380 --> 00:40:07,380
they're communicating with in the spirit world.

705
00:40:08,380 --> 00:40:10,380
I think that we can achieve similar results by just putting

706
00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:12,380
a picture on the outside of a cotton swab

707
00:40:12,380 --> 00:40:15,380
and then having you two on a seltzer tablet.

708
00:40:15,380 --> 00:40:17,380
I mean that seltzer tablet will give you that type of foam.

709
00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:23,380
So I volunteered to be the medium for this particular experiment.

710
00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:26,380
We're going to use sodium bicarbonate and citric acid tablets,

711
00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:28,380
and we're going to put those in my mouth.

712
00:40:28,380 --> 00:40:31,380
They're going to bubble up and when my mouth becomes too much to bear,

713
00:40:31,380 --> 00:40:33,380
it's going to burst out.

714
00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:36,380
When that happens, this little photo of Bill,

715
00:40:36,380 --> 00:40:38,380
which will be planted in my mouth,

716
00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:42,380
and then we'll pop out and hopefully the bubbles will go around it

717
00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:45,380
and it'll replicate the original photo really nicely.

718
00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:50,380
I think it's going to be pretty good when you think about how much

719
00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:52,380
these seltzer tablets can foam.

720
00:40:52,380 --> 00:40:54,380
It's going to give us a really good look.

721
00:40:54,380 --> 00:40:56,380
I do wonder about controlling the foam around the picture,

722
00:40:56,380 --> 00:40:59,380
but I say, hey, we can't figure it out until we do it, right?

723
00:41:00,380 --> 00:41:01,380
I got four total right now.

724
00:41:01,380 --> 00:41:04,380
All right, I have two here, so you're going to have six total.

725
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:07,380
Steve, you could chew all of these with as little water as possible

726
00:41:07,380 --> 00:41:09,380
because we want to make sure that the foam coming out of your mouth

727
00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:11,380
doesn't pull down with the weight of the water.

728
00:41:11,380 --> 00:41:14,380
We want to make sure that our foams go around the picture of Bill.

729
00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:16,380
All right. All right, just rock and roll.

730
00:41:18,380 --> 00:41:19,380
Okay.

731
00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:22,380
Give us the signal, he'll hit the lights, we'll be good to go.

732
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:26,380
Three, two, one, lights out.

733
00:41:28,380 --> 00:41:29,380
All right, I think I got it.

734
00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:33,380
One thing that I think was different is that you had a lot more foam

735
00:41:33,380 --> 00:41:36,380
on your clothing than what we see in the photo.

736
00:41:36,380 --> 00:41:38,380
So good thing that you're wearing this bag here.

737
00:41:38,380 --> 00:41:40,380
All right, well, let's take a look at what the results are.

738
00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:41,380
I'm ready.

739
00:41:44,380 --> 00:41:45,380
Look at that, guys.

740
00:41:45,380 --> 00:41:46,380
Oh, my gosh.

741
00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:52,380
For our final photo, we moved on to an iconic image of ectoplasm

742
00:41:52,380 --> 00:41:55,380
with a face appearing right in the ectoplasm.

743
00:41:57,380 --> 00:41:59,380
I actually took a picture of Bill, we cut it out,

744
00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:01,380
put it on the end of a cotton swab.

745
00:42:01,380 --> 00:42:04,380
Devon was able to put that into his mouth

746
00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:08,380
and also chew up about six to seven seltzer tablets.

747
00:42:08,380 --> 00:42:11,380
And once it was ready, mixed with a little bit of water, kaboom.

748
00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:14,380
It comes out and he flips Bill's head out of his mouth.

749
00:42:14,380 --> 00:42:16,380
So go ahead and take a look at this one.

750
00:42:19,380 --> 00:42:20,380
Oh, wow.

751
00:42:20,380 --> 00:42:22,380
Look at this.

752
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:24,380
All in the name of science.

753
00:42:27,380 --> 00:42:29,380
So, guys, what do you think about the photos?

754
00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:30,380
Fact or fate?

755
00:42:31,380 --> 00:42:36,380
In the original photograph, the ectoplasm has kind of a fuzzy edge.

756
00:42:37,380 --> 00:42:41,380
And in your photograph, it's very defined.

757
00:42:42,380 --> 00:42:44,380
I just can't buy this one.

758
00:42:44,380 --> 00:42:45,380
I think it's complete hoax.

759
00:42:45,380 --> 00:42:48,380
We were convinced that we could replicate these photos well.

760
00:42:48,380 --> 00:42:53,380
But I can't say with certainty that the original witnesses were part of any hoax.

761
00:42:53,380 --> 00:42:58,380
Really makes me question the validity of the media, Mary Ann Marshall.

762
00:42:59,380 --> 00:43:01,380
Remember, all this happened to her.

763
00:43:01,380 --> 00:43:04,380
Could she have been hoaxing everybody?

764
00:43:06,380 --> 00:43:09,380
I think you guys more than did your due diligence

765
00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:12,380
in showing there are numerous methods in which you can recreate these photos.

766
00:43:12,380 --> 00:43:13,380
Agreed.

767
00:43:13,380 --> 00:43:15,380
Well, I'd like to look more into ectoplasm,

768
00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:19,380
but in this case, we weren't trying to prove that ectoplasm doesn't exist.

769
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:21,380
We were just looking at these photographs,

770
00:43:21,380 --> 00:43:24,380
and I think we pretty well showed they could have been faked.

771
00:43:25,380 --> 00:43:27,380
It was an excellent job, guys.

772
00:43:28,380 --> 00:43:30,380
Ectoplasm